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Greenwald only has a New York Times Best Selling Book on the Bush Administration and its abuses of power. And he has one of the most-read blogs on the Interent, after 9 months of blogging. And Senators read from his blog at Senate hearings and his posts lead to front-page news stories in major newspapers.

Why would anyone think what he has to say matters? It's not like anyone listens to him. It's not like he's Ace, or Jeff Goldstein, or Patterico, or Sister Toldjah or Glenn Reynolds, or someone who really matters.

Great advice, you super-important bloggers should only to each other and about each other. Don't bother with anyone in the Left because if you ignore them, they'll just go away.

Posted by Ellison at July 13, 2006 08:14 AM



Yeah, I know. Fascinating stuff. So why am I quoting this? Good question.

I saw this particular comment on this thread at Ace of Spades HQ regarding Glenn Greenwald and his insufferable douchebaggery. But what really caught my attention was how closely that comment meshed with this one I had read earlier:


What I don’t quite understand is, why do so many, almost all on the extreme Left, consider Greenwald some kind of great constitutional authority.
Lets see, a New York Times bestselling book on executive authority. Breaks a story on his blog about wiretapping that leads to front-page stories on most major newspapers in the country. Russ Feingold reads from his blog during the Censure hearings.

Maybe that has something to do with why. Any conservative bloggers with credentials like that? All compiled in 9 months or however long its been since he started blogging?

Jeffy’s funny poems are great and everything, and im sure your anonymous lawyer friends are really smart and all, but hard to say they compare to those things.

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Now that's weird. That comment at Protein Wisdom seems awfully similar to the comment at Ace of Spades HQ which came later from a different person. New York Times bestseller, blog read by Russ Feingold, 9 months on the web, front page stories in major newspapers.

Needless to say, I'm going to keep my eyes on this.

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The said person in either case is not necessarily Greenwald. Logical Fault #1.

And even if he is one of them, you are familiar with the idea of plagiarism, right? Or perhaps in your mind it happens only in books?

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or passed Yiddish 101.

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Blogger Purple Avenger said...

Ummm, right - Greenwald and all his loyal syncophants just happen to be banging off the same proxy server in Brazil.

Quite a coincidince that.

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Excuse me?

Did you say that you know that the IP is from a proxy server in Brazil? That you've traced it to that?

You do know how a proxy server works, don't you? Everyone hitting that server is going to appear as having the same IP address, the address of the proxy.

Now, I don't want to ruin a good conspiracy theory, but imagine this. Glenn has a lover in Brazil. His lover talks about how proud he is of Glenn. His lover has a friend with the same ISP... do I have to keep painting this picture?

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I know alittle somethin somethin about proxy servers and ISPs. While Brazil used to be a spam MONSTER(ranked 4th in 2004 by Spamhaus) and hacker haven they have cleaned up their act somewhat. While it wouldn't surprise me to find more than their fair share of elite proxies within their borders, I would be a bit surprised to find one at an ISP(at least one that obfuscates IPs). That would only create more headaches for the ISP should they receive a warrant for something(or however Brazil does such legal stuff).

Now, the technical side of this thing is only a small piece of the overall sockpuppet. The language and grammatical consistencies between the various posters is a larger piece and frankly more entertaining.

The technical part of obscuring an IP address is trivial. The language piece should also be trivial...unless you are a ...well...What was it Patrick? the first pillar? New York Times Best Selling Author? Yeah, that's it.

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